tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post507231059715529043..comments2024-03-27T21:47:38.050-07:00Comments on stevereads: Stevesees! R.I.P. Roy ScheiderUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-45681898233669268272008-02-22T11:14:00.000-08:002008-02-22T11:14:00.000-08:00"I am KIROK!!!"Don't you mean "I am CRUNK!!!"?"I am KIROK!!!"<BR/><BR/>Don't you mean "I am CRUNK!!!"?Locke Peterseimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05320507157893341941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-65801487385753627072008-02-21T18:01:00.000-08:002008-02-21T18:01:00.000-08:00Wait a minute! Stop everything! Did Jeff just ... ...Wait a minute! Stop everything! Did Jeff just ... did he just COMPLIMENT me??? <BR/><BR/>Maybe I really AM Kirok ...stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-75470023310170332022008-02-21T17:58:00.000-08:002008-02-21T17:58:00.000-08:00"deep down, Steve simply cannot accept that films ..."deep down, Steve simply cannot accept that films are not just really, really snazzily illustrated books"<BR/><BR/>You know, Plato said it best: your oldest friends are your biggest pains in the ass.<BR/><BR/>The rest of you: pay no attention to this Locke person! I am infallible! I am KIROK!!!stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-61591812603230814922008-02-21T12:49:00.000-08:002008-02-21T12:49:00.000-08:00Goddamned, this was a great blog post. I know peo...Goddamned, this was a great blog post. I know people who consider themselves the most cutting edge, avant-garde poets alive, and they would absolutely *kill* to write something this original. <BR/><BR/>And Kevin is right. It's more fun to catch Jaws I in bits and pieces when it comes on TV, but to sit down for a full-sized, square meal of a movie, Close Encounters tops it.<BR/><BR/>-Jeff E.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884498632658933283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-36645203005972312842008-02-21T11:33:00.000-08:002008-02-21T11:33:00.000-08:00Close Encounters of the Third Kind is a better mov...Close Encounters of the Third Kind is a better movie than Jaws.<BR/><BR/>Discuss.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00289597293731183865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-366133058134251912008-02-21T05:33:00.000-08:002008-02-21T05:33:00.000-08:00That's a great line, but my favorite is definitely...That's a great line, but my favorite is definitely "it's only an island if you look at it from the water."brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-53026467724632449462008-02-21T01:31:00.000-08:002008-02-21T01:31:00.000-08:00"you're gonna need a bigger boat" --> i can never ..."you're gonna need a bigger boat" --> i can never forget this roy scheider ilne :).Monster Paperbaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05858425341085049006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-88310626777231531312008-02-20T16:27:00.000-08:002008-02-20T16:27:00.000-08:00Will Graham couldn't have put it better himself.St...Will Graham couldn't have put it better himself.<BR/><BR/>Steve, any idea if there's a sequel to 'Shadow of a Scream' in the works? How about 'Xanadu'? Both are richly deserving of one.brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-87779593613792046582008-02-20T14:53:00.000-08:002008-02-20T14:53:00.000-08:00I've had to hear Steve's pro-Jaws II shtick a mill...I've had to hear Steve's pro-Jaws II shtick a million times (and verbally, where you can't just skim down the page -- well, at least until I learned how to pretend to listen while entering a Zen state).<BR/><BR/>Full disclosure, I've probably only seen J-II a couple times and probably not in the past 5 years or more. Whereas, Jaws I is one of my favorite films of all time, and I just watched it last week in honor of Mr. Scheider.<BR/><BR/>I can also tell you that Steve LOVES Jaws I. He only takes this silly, crack-smoking (best line of the board goes to Sam) stance for exactly the reason you see here today: to get a sputtering, disbelieving rise out of film buffs, Jaws fans, and right-thinking people everywhere (which is exactly how I responded the first couple times he flung it at me -- until I learned that whole Zen Tuning Out trick).<BR/><BR/>As usual with Steve, he has a decent point -- as we've seen from the lists, there are many examples of good sequels and threequels (I for one LOVE Austin Powers Goldmember). Unfortunately, there are tenfold more examples of the root of the stereotype: sequels that do indeed suck.<BR/><BR/>I don't buy for a minute his specific defense of Jaws II -- not as a "good film" (though it's certainly not awful), and certainly not his Crazy-Guy-Stands-On-Corner-Shouting-At-Pedestrians routine of saying it's "better" than the first film. ("Purists will howl, of course." -- oh, how Steve HOPES and DREAMS they will.)<BR/><BR/>As some of you know, Steve doesn't "see" movies the same way most of us do. Some of it is aesthetics, some of it is snobbery. ("To which we here at Stevesees say: there ain't no Muse of filmic cohesion." -- which of course gets at the source of the problem: deep down, Steve simply cannot accept that films are not just really, really snazzily illustrated books.) For example, cinematography is wasted on Steve -- if he had his way, all films would be lit from corner to corner -- shadows are "pretentious." So I'll skip over his whining about "narrative cohesion" (though I think Jaws I is so well-crafted in terms of character and narrative that I used to use it to teach short story structure to high school sophomores), and touch on an obvious decline in J-II: it looks like a Lifetime made-for-TV movie, whereas the original is a richly beautiful film.<BR/><BR/>One other note: by the rules, The Two Towers is not a sequel, since it was literally shot at the same time as the other films, is part of planned whole. And besides that, by Steve's OWN admission, it's NOT better than Fellowship.<BR/><BR/>Now if someone would just get around to making The Lion In Winter II: Still Roarin'Locke Peterseimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05320507157893341941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-90647527732728545922008-02-20T14:32:00.000-08:002008-02-20T14:32:00.000-08:00Hold on! In the midst of all this dorkage, if I'm ...Hold on! In the midst of all this dorkage, if I'm not mistaken, Steve just agreed that Godfather II is one of his Top Ten Sequels!<BR/><BR/>Ha!<BR/><BR/>If I recall correctly, Steve hates the Godfather films with a passion that could only be greater if they were produced by Phillip Morris.<BR/><BR/>In his rush to prove his point about sequels, he's accidentally pledged his love for Godfather II! It's forever! It's on the Internet!Locke Peterseimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05320507157893341941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-19183594397255916932008-02-19T11:04:00.000-08:002008-02-19T11:04:00.000-08:00Let's not forget about Friday the 13th Part II, pe...Let's not forget about Friday the 13th Part II, perhaps the only sequel that ever introduced the main villain of a series?brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-75625616054397085172008-02-19T08:04:00.000-08:002008-02-19T08:04:00.000-08:00*coughDORK*ahem.*coughDORK*<BR/><BR/>ahem.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00289597293731183865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-52335440057496585462008-02-18T15:25:00.000-08:002008-02-18T15:25:00.000-08:00All five would make my top ten! Plus 'Jaws 2,' 'Pr...All five would make my top ten! Plus 'Jaws 2,' 'Predator 2,' 'Superman 2,' 'The Howling 2,' 'Dracula 2000 II,' 'High School Musical 2,' 'The Two Towers,' 'Cody Banks 2,' 'Gremlins 2,' 'Spider-Man 2,' and of course most of all, 'Rooster Cogburn.'stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-70809446027846326712008-02-17T18:29:00.000-08:002008-02-17T18:29:00.000-08:00Of course it can be both. I was just sayin, is al...Of course it can be both. I was just sayin, is all. Can you provide us with a top five list of sequels? Would said list ONLY include direct sequels or could it include part 3's, 4's, etc?<BR/><BR/>I guess my choices would be as follows:<BR/><BR/>1. Aliens<BR/>2. The Godfather part II<BR/>3. Star Trek II<BR/>4. Terminator II<BR/>5. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre II<BR/><BR/>I didn't include Empire Strikes Back because it's not an entirely stand-alone film. Feels more like a part of a greater whole than a sequel.brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-89930497178366435402008-02-17T18:15:00.000-08:002008-02-17T18:15:00.000-08:00And the post is BOTH an obit for Roy Scheider and ...And the post is BOTH an obit for Roy Scheider and a defense of 'Jaws 2' - and of ALL sequels! Why can't it be both? What is this, the Soviet Frickin Union?stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-19053601354195647442008-02-17T18:14:00.000-08:002008-02-17T18:14:00.000-08:00There you have it, Beepy! Locke. Does. Not. Pun. S...There you have it, Beepy! Locke. Does. Not. Pun. So it MUST have been my line!stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-72884839346992504432008-02-17T15:42:00.000-08:002008-02-17T15:42:00.000-08:00And who can forget the majesty of Seaquest DSV?And who can forget the majesty of Seaquest DSV?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-16806608558209773772008-02-17T09:59:00.000-08:002008-02-17T09:59:00.000-08:00Damn, I wish I could go back and edit my posts. O...Damn, I wish I could go back and edit my posts. Omit that last question mark.brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-47077705558775451232008-02-17T09:58:00.000-08:002008-02-17T09:58:00.000-08:00Wait, I thought this was an obit for Roy Scheider?...Wait, I thought this was an obit for Roy Scheider? Instead we get your defense of Jaws 2 as the superior Jaws film? I agree it's a fun sequel, but let's get real here. It's basically a slasher film in the water. There are a few taut scene's ("I can't get up" comes to mind) and Scheider is, as always, solid, but let's get real here. <BR/><BR/>When I think of Scheider, I think of (besides the obvious Chief Brody)his terrific performances in The Seven-Ups, Sorcerer, French Connection and even as Hoffman's shady CIA brother in Marathon Man? He's absolutely underrated.brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735195151662028189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-1275871653393046772008-02-17T09:00:00.000-08:002008-02-17T09:00:00.000-08:00I. Do. Not. Pun.I. Do. Not. Pun.Locke Peterseimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05320507157893341941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-51545260291950269902008-02-17T07:34:00.000-08:002008-02-17T07:34:00.000-08:00Beepy, believe it or not, I'm actually a fairly da...Beepy, believe it or not, I'm actually a fairly dab hand at witty turns-of-phrase. If you ever looked at Open Letters, you'd see ample evidence.<BR/><BR/>That having been said, I'm sure it was Locke. Who is good enough to steal from?stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-23621510619707581582008-02-17T07:32:00.000-08:002008-02-17T07:32:00.000-08:00Sam, the thing POPS up behind people, out-thinks ...Sam, the thing POPS up behind people, out-thinks all the humans, does FAKE OUTS at every turn! That ain't natural, and the nice thing about 'Jaws 2' is that it doesn't even PRETEND otherwise. Is all I'm saying.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00411174345391126343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-30641530193175167942008-02-17T06:26:00.000-08:002008-02-17T06:26:00.000-08:00"as Police Chief Brody in Jaws: he's impossibly br..."as Police Chief Brody in Jaws: he's impossibly bracketed between the ham of Robert Shaw and the wry of Richard Dreyfuss."<BR/><BR/>Which movie reviewer did you lift this line from?F-Stophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744135906800231796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32302521.post-14457654275052578432008-02-16T21:40:00.000-08:002008-02-16T21:40:00.000-08:00Wow, this is a great first installment of Stevesmo...Wow, this is a great first installment of Stevesmokescrack!<BR/><BR/>The shark in "Jaws" is entirely realistic, which is why the movie has literally ruined swimming in the ocean for many thousands of people, in a way that other horror movies based on animals have not. The men only find Jaws at the end of the movie after eight hours of doggedly shoveling chum into the sea, hunting him down. A shark doesn't have to be supernatural to appear--and attack--when it's being hunted. And a shark doesn't have to be supernatural to start trolling the shoreline, munching humans every once in a while, as sharks have actually done. This is why the move is indelibly scary, in a deep-seated pathological way. <BR/><BR/>I agree, though, that Roy Scheider was a really good, underrated actor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com